{"id":5,"date":"2007-11-11T13:38:00","date_gmt":"2007-11-11T18:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/?p=5"},"modified":"2007-11-11T13:38:00","modified_gmt":"2007-11-11T18:38:00","slug":"experts-on-french-student-movements","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/2007\/11\/11\/experts-on-french-student-movements\/","title":{"rendered":"experts on french student movements"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Apparently there is a group of French historians specializing in academic contestation: &#8220;Jean-Philippe Legois est historien sp\u00e9cialiste de la contestation universitaire, membre du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.germe.info\/\">Germe<\/a> (groupe de recherche sur les mouvements \u00e9tudiants) et de la mission Caarme (pour la cr\u00e9ation d\u2019un centre d\u2019archives sur les mouvements \u00e9tudiants).&#8221; Legois was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.liberation.fr\/actualite\/societe\/290478.FR.php\">interviewed in Liberation<\/a>; he thinks that the strikes could either grow substantially or remain small. Which is obvious. A more interesting point is that he thinks the question of the &#8220;politics&#8221; of student groups &#8211; which seems to be code for government accusations that they&#8217;re a front for the &#8220;extreme left&#8221; &#8211; is a nonissue, the real question being the creation of contingent coalitions of different groups in different circumstances. As for the question of the P\u00e9cresse law&#8217;s opening of the university to big business, he seems equivocal.<\/p>\n<p>A broad spectrum of feelings is apparent in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.liberation.fr\/php\/pages\/pageReactionsList.php?rubId=15&amp;docId=290478#reac712519\">comments<\/a> on the article. One says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>au fond ceux qui manifestent ne sont-ils pas en plein desarroi? on leur a fait croire que l &#8216;universit\u00e9 \u00e9tait accessible \u00e0 tous, tout le monde pouvait \u00eatre docteur, chercheur &#8230;&#8230;. et non m\u00eame \u00e0 la fac il y a un filtre( \u00e0 la sortie) il vaut mieux faire des etudes modestes et respectables, que de &#8220;longues \u00e9tudes&#8221; qui ne menent \u00e0 rien! je suis d &#8216;accord d\u00e8s que le priv\u00e9 sera dans l &#8216;universit\u00e9 alors celles-ci brilleront davantage comme \u00e0 l &#8216;etranger c &#8216;est vrai mais attention la fac n &#8216;est pas faite pour tout le monde! il faut l &#8216;accepter et accepter ses limites. (on voit m\u00eame des bac pro s&#8217;inscrire en medecine sic!, en science!) l echec est programm\u00e9 non?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Which means roughly:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>at heart, aren&#8217;t those who protest in total confusion? they were led to believe that the university was accessible to all, everyone could be doctor, researcher&#8230;. and that even at the fac there wasn&#8217;t a filter (at the exit). it&#8217;s better to do modest and respectable studies, than &#8220;long studies&#8221; leading to nothing! i agree since the private [sector] will be in the university, they&#8217;ll shine like they do abroad, it&#8217;s true. but pay attention, the fac isn&#8217;t made for everybody! you have to accept it and accept its limits. (one even sees vocational high school students enrolling in medicine, in science!) failure is planned, no?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s a very conservative pragmatism to argue that &#8220;the fac isn&#8217;t made for everybody,&#8221; but I think it&#8217;s an interesting claim that failure is planned. There&#8217;s more to look into when it comes to planned failure and disappointment in academic institutions.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Apparently there is a group of French historians specializing in academic contestation: &#8220;Jean-Philippe Legois est historien sp\u00e9cialiste de la contestation universitaire, membre du Germe (groupe de recherche sur les mouvements \u00e9tudiants) et de la mission Caarme (pour la cr\u00e9ation d\u2019un centre d\u2019archives sur les mouvements \u00e9tudiants).&#8221; Legois was interviewed in Liberation; he thinks that the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[488,496],"tags":[594,616,691],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/decasia.org\/academic_culture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}