Comments on: The brief moment of tenure in American universities https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/ critical anthropology of academic culture Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:21:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.8.1 By: decasia » Early fragments on the intellectual precariate https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1262 Tue, 24 May 2011 17:51:26 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1262 […] the increasing precarity of academic work is a recent and novel phenomenon. As I’ve noted before, in the American case this sometimes seems to rest on the historically inaccurate fantasy of a […]

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By: Week Resadieu « zunguzungu https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1261 Sat, 22 May 2010 13:30:36 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1261 […] suggestion that tenure has no necessary connection to academia, as such, but rather that the historical moment […]

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By: Tenure Was a Moment « Gerry Canavan https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1260 Wed, 19 May 2010 06:55:54 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1260 […] a comment » Historicize it however you want; you can have my imaginary tenure when you pry it from my cold, dead […]

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By: eli https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1259 Mon, 17 May 2010 08:27:09 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1259 Hi Max, I don’t know why I didn’t reply right away. Anyway, I agree that the increasing unavailability of tenure is itself very bad for research (perhaps esp. in the humanities), because of course the logistical demands of juggling four adjunct jobs take up a lot of time that might otherwise be put into research work, not to mention the counterproductive stress, etc. Incidentally, the other day I heard a high-ranking corporate research officer, the research director from Total, give a talk on research management, and I was interested to hear him say that “stress is never good — not even in the private sector!” (He knew he was talking to an audience of academics, of course.)

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By: Max https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1258 Thu, 13 May 2010 22:13:15 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1258 Eli:

One of the reasons why I hauled out the MFA example is because it seems like such an egregious example to me of the “getting made” scenario. I should have added that, depending on the field, tenure’s value to the work being done seems (at least in my mind) to be in flux. So I think we generally agree.

But what I would also say is that, given current conditions, tenure and all of its benefits, which supposedly protect the marginal, are part of the reason why jobs for full professors are becoming so scarce. Which could be, in itself, considered a marginalizing effect. We’re talking about a generation of academics, after all, who will be subjected to pseudo-employee status for much of their early careers, partly because it’s become too expensive to keep them on full salaries and benefits. That, too, has consequences for the research and study that forms our knowledge base. (Though, again, probably not as dramatic an effect as hardcore advocates would argue, at least not in every case).

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By: eli https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1257 Thu, 13 May 2010 21:51:55 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1257 As always, I appreciate your intellectual engagement, Mike, and the reminder that, as usual, we disagree about the beneficence of the global economy. But I would note that this post, if it’s about anything, is about the big trends and not about the specific policy proposals!

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By: Michael Bishop https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1256 Thu, 13 May 2010 19:20:52 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1256 Though I think the last 30-40 years have been more good than bad for Americans, the most important story of that time period is the massive increase in the standard of living in China and India. I’m pretty sure that the share of the American economy accounted for by the 500 largest firms has shrunk, not that this statistic, in isolation, says much. We’ve also had increasing income inequality within countries (but decreasing inequality across individuals worldwide)…

While I think its useful to sometimes debate the big trends and what they portend for people’s well being, it might be more important/productive to discuss specific policy proposals and what their likely effects are.

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By: eli https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1255 Thu, 13 May 2010 15:56:35 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1255 Hi Mike, you’re right of course that there are certain consumer benefits to be had from what I guess we might as well call recent decades’ economic, or more precisely corporate, globalization. My view is that these consumer benefits are massively not worth the trade for bad/unstable/nonexistent jobs and ever-increasing corporate dominance of our society’s culture, politics and policy. We’re no less dominated by massive firms than ever, as far as I can tell, and I wouldn’t even really agree with calling it an era of increased competition, if increased competition means that goods and services markets are open to increasingly more firms. Au contraire, it seems to me more like a situation where increasingly large business enterprises are getting ever more consolidated (often internationally) and breaking down the legal, social and economic restrictions on their operations that formerly tended to hold them back within national boundaries and restrained to narrower spheres of operation. Business has been quite eagerly expanding into the higher education market, for example, and while I don’t know if I really care whether the private or public sector is teaching people how to be computer technicians, it would be a major tragedy to have a total conversion of higher education to for-profit models. That’s not on the horizon now, but it’s in the spirit of GATS and the WTO to go in that direction.

Basically, I do agree with you that there is a cost/benefit equation here, but the upsides to me seem generally unconvincing and the downsides grave. I wouldn’t advocate for a return to the 50s, obviously, but I think that it’s unacceptable to cast the global workforce into a state of precarity. Of course, I am quite aware that some people (especially people with a great faith in markets) will see the cost/benefit equation differently than I do.

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By: Michael Bishop https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1254 Thu, 13 May 2010 15:19:45 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1254 Eli, thanks for pointing out these facts about tenure. I wasn’t aware of this stuff. I’m not an expert on economic and labor history either, but I want to do my best to balance your description of negative trends with a mention of the positive trends to which they are more or less inextricably linked.

My understanding is that the reason the post-WWII era had better job security was that firms were more profitable. Why were they more profitable? Because 1) they faced less foreign competition because foreign countries were educationally and technologically behind the U.S., and perhaps because they suffered more from the war.
2) they had more monopoly power within our borders as well

There are probably other reasons as well. The good news is that the economic competition that made our jobs less secure than they once were has also provided all sorts of comforts that were not available in the past. More living space, better access to information and education, many new forms of entertainment, lower priced and more diverse food and culture, new medicines, work that is more interesting for some (surely less interesting for others, hard to say about the net effect). I’m not saying that government should do nothing to ameliorate the downsides of economic competition, but if we only pay attention to the downsides then we will probably take actions with unintended consequences.

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By: eli https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1253 Thu, 13 May 2010 14:34:10 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1253 I agree with with your later couple of paragraphs. But I don’t share your sense that tenure is a sinecure that allows people to get away with doing little. My sense is that most tenured faculty are working quite a bit more than 40 hour weeks — as are most assistant professors who want to get tenure, and many full-time adjuncts, no doubt. And I do think that, for that minority of professors who does want to do non-mainstream research or take controversial stands, tenure does serve as an important protection. There’s an ugly history of firing dissidents from the academy that would probably be uglier still without it. So that’s the specific value in tenure for academics. It protects the marginal. And I do think that’s worth something. It’s just that I don’t think this protection for the marginal can be grounds for a good, plausible public defense of the professoriate when so much academic research has so little public benefit.

Do we agree here? or only mostly?

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By: Max https://decasia.org/academic_culture/2010/05/13/the-brief-moment-of-tenure-in-american-universities/#comment-1252 Thu, 13 May 2010 12:43:13 +0000 http://decasia.org/academic_culture/?p=1411#comment-1252 I think that last point you make, questioning the supposedly inherent value of professorial tenure to the work that is produced in academia, is pretty astute. The longer I spent in academia–from my time as a wide-eyed undergraduate, until the last, jaded year of grad school–the more it seemed like tenure was the academic version of becoming a “made guy” (in mafia parlance). And I think that this is certainly the case in the Creative Writing MFA field. The entire point of getting a teaching gig at an MFA program is so you can get tenure and be paid to write all day long, while teaching a couple weekly workshops each semester. That tenure adds significant value to an MFA professor’s teaching or “research” activities is dubious, at best.

Like you, I’m not so sure that the work coming out of academia is uniquely, or even especially, worthy of the “protection” of tenure, at least no more than any other kind of work. That it would be defended by academics and their advocates is not surprising, of course, but I think that the rhetoric used to defend it (that academia must be this uniquely preserved/protected zone, and that tenure is key to that effort) is often overblown and overtly self-serving.

At the same time, inasmuch as many academic jobs in America are actually public sector jobs, I don’t see why university faculty–not to mention K-12 public school teachers–should be subject to a different set of employment practices than, say, police officers. Police officers can do all kinds of crap and leave with their jobs intact. And yet one only needs to turn on the TV or read a newspaper these days to hear certain segments of the public criticizing tenure for teachers on public payrolls. Granted, K-12 teachers are a far easier target than professors, so I don’t think the “plight” of the latter (largely imaginary) can be so easily rolled up into that of the former (pretty obvious/evident). But still, I think it’s worth taking into account.

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