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	<title>Comments on: The farce of the private university campus job</title>
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		<title>By: mmcglynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmcglynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This metric should include taxes withheld.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If an education at an elite private university doesn&#039;t seem worth the price, don&#039;t buy it.</description>
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		<title>By: eli</title>
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		<dc:creator>eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Viola,
Yeah, university finances are fairly incomprehensible a lot of the time. I think one professor at chicago has three offices, even! And about Finland... My sister is in Sweden actually -- university is free even for foreigners there, although supposedly that will change soon. And it&#039;s really dark up there in the winters.

I think the main thing you can do about debt-free education in the US is to advocate for political changes in higher education funding. It would take a pretty massive effort, though, and it doesn&#039;t sound like you have a great desire for that kind of involvement... Bousquet&#039;s work on work study is great, by the way, and I recommend the excerpted chapter I linked to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Viola,<br />
Yeah, university finances are fairly incomprehensible a lot of the time. I think one professor at chicago has three offices, even! And about Finland&#8230; My sister is in Sweden actually &#8212; university is free even for foreigners there, although supposedly that will change soon. And it&#8217;s really dark up there in the winters.</p>
<p>I think the main thing you can do about debt-free education in the US is to advocate for political changes in higher education funding. It would take a pretty massive effort, though, and it doesn&#8217;t sound like you have a great desire for that kind of involvement&#8230; Bousquet&#8217;s work on work study is great, by the way, and I recommend the excerpted chapter I linked to.</p>
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		<title>By: BamendaBabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>BamendaBabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! This is astounding! I once did work-study and made barely enough to cover my rent per quarter, when I was an undergrad. The rest of my tuition came from grants/loans, but I was fortunate. I was OLD. Because of my age, I was eligible for more funding in Pell Grants, I think. I went to the junior college and paid my way through that (with campus jobs and summer internships) and then transferred and by then I was a 24-year-old junior. After 23 or 24 years (an &#039;independent&#039;), FAFSA worked for me very well. So I got most of my tuition covered and then I got lucky and landed a $2000 scholarship for my last 2 years (I was a super-senior and actually enrolled for an extra year). But hey, maybe my taxes were just coming back to me in the form of grants. Ah, well. It was a Univ of CA campus so not too too expensive. Anyhow, once I got to UM/grad school, I was floored by the cost. That was for sure too too expensive and I couldn&#039;t become a Michigan resident and get resident tuition because I hadn&#039;t lived in MI for at least a year as a non-student prior to attending UM. Bizarre, when you think about it. Quite a bit of anxiety for me. Every semester there was a ton of stress going around in anthro dept b/c grad students didn&#039;t know if they&#039;d get the coveted TAships and the chance to stay on for another semester with &#039;full&#039; funding (TAships were seen as pretty comprehensive sweet deal packages). The dept did a good job of playing on our fears (of being left out in the cold and TAship-less), but one day some very exhausted students spoke up and asked for more transparency in how TAships were awarded. Grrrr. Even then, the Union (GEO) was busily advocated for better student wages. All I wanted to do was go home and sleep and pretend stuff didn&#039;t concern me. I didn&#039;t want to be involved. Why bother? The president of the Univ was making close to a million dollars for her annual salary. Sickening to me. And she had a nice white mansion to live in, on the same street as the anthro dept. Some of the professors, I&#039;m sure, made good salaries (some over $100 is what I heard) and I noticed that quite a few had not one but TWO whole offices, that is the faculty with joint appointments in anthro and various ethnic studies departments or joint work with anthro and various institutes (research or other) across campus. Grad students didn&#039;t get an office until they were dissertation writers, if I recall. But we spent hours talking to and TAing undergrads. TAing (50% appointment) was more than 20hrs a week but we were paid a set stipend and so it fell on our shoulders to make sure we worked no more than about 22hrs per week. How to do that, only God knows. So many absurd things, but where else are we supposed to go for a “great” education? I hear that univ education is free in Finland. I&#039;m thinking about it, just need a country with nice warm weather. Got any ideas? Cuz I really like being in school but I also like being so gloriously debt-free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! This is astounding! I once did work-study and made barely enough to cover my rent per quarter, when I was an undergrad. The rest of my tuition came from grants/loans, but I was fortunate. I was OLD. Because of my age, I was eligible for more funding in Pell Grants, I think. I went to the junior college and paid my way through that (with campus jobs and summer internships) and then transferred and by then I was a 24-year-old junior. After 23 or 24 years (an &#8216;independent&#8217;), FAFSA worked for me very well. So I got most of my tuition covered and then I got lucky and landed a $2000 scholarship for my last 2 years (I was a super-senior and actually enrolled for an extra year). But hey, maybe my taxes were just coming back to me in the form of grants. Ah, well. It was a Univ of CA campus so not too too expensive. Anyhow, once I got to UM/grad school, I was floored by the cost. That was for sure too too expensive and I couldn&#8217;t become a Michigan resident and get resident tuition because I hadn&#8217;t lived in MI for at least a year as a non-student prior to attending UM. Bizarre, when you think about it. Quite a bit of anxiety for me. Every semester there was a ton of stress going around in anthro dept b/c grad students didn&#8217;t know if they&#8217;d get the coveted TAships and the chance to stay on for another semester with &#8216;full&#8217; funding (TAships were seen as pretty comprehensive sweet deal packages). The dept did a good job of playing on our fears (of being left out in the cold and TAship-less), but one day some very exhausted students spoke up and asked for more transparency in how TAships were awarded. Grrrr. Even then, the Union (GEO) was busily advocated for better student wages. All I wanted to do was go home and sleep and pretend stuff didn&#8217;t concern me. I didn&#8217;t want to be involved. Why bother? The president of the Univ was making close to a million dollars for her annual salary. Sickening to me. And she had a nice white mansion to live in, on the same street as the anthro dept. Some of the professors, I&#8217;m sure, made good salaries (some over $100 is what I heard) and I noticed that quite a few had not one but TWO whole offices, that is the faculty with joint appointments in anthro and various ethnic studies departments or joint work with anthro and various institutes (research or other) across campus. Grad students didn&#8217;t get an office until they were dissertation writers, if I recall. But we spent hours talking to and TAing undergrads. TAing (50% appointment) was more than 20hrs a week but we were paid a set stipend and so it fell on our shoulders to make sure we worked no more than about 22hrs per week. How to do that, only God knows. So many absurd things, but where else are we supposed to go for a “great” education? I hear that univ education is free in Finland. I&#8217;m thinking about it, just need a country with nice warm weather. Got any ideas? Cuz I really like being in school but I also like being so gloriously debt-free.</p>
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